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Author Topic: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams  (Read 39909 times)

anthem

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Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« on: January 03, 2007, 04:17 pm »
Hi, everybody, Happy New Year! :lol:
I was wondering: what AP course credits does JHU accept for Undergraduate? Does JHU accept class credits like, AP English or AP Physics?

Also, another question...
When the admission office reviews applications, does it take into account the number of AP tests taken in senior year? In other words, if someone is taking less AP tests in senior year than the person did in the previous year, will he or she be seen as having "senioritis"?   :o ...

Thanks a lot! :D

Admissions_Daniel

  • Administrator
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2007, 04:45 pm »
A complete breakdown of AP / IB credit can be found here:

http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/apib.html

As far as your second question, yes the rigor of a student's curriculum in each year of high school is an important factor. We want to see that student's have challenged themselves academically while at the same time performing at a high level. There is no set # of advanced courses a student must take, as each application is reviewed independent of all other applications.

anthem

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2007, 05:44 pm »
Thanks a lot for the reply and the link.

In my senior year, I had signed up for some AP courses whose corresponding AP tests would not count towards Hopkins credits. I was at first considering not taking the ap tests for those particular courses only, but will it have a negative impact upon admission or enrollment ? (--because if I don't take those "non-credited" AP tests this year, I will be taking one less AP test than I did last year and thus possibly become a "slacker"?? )

 :(

Thank you.

Admissions_Daniel

  • Administrator
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 10:32 am »
We do not base our assessment of student's high school curriculum rigor based on whether the student takes AP exams, but rather if they take AP courses. AP exams are not what matters to admissions, AP courses do.

sweetgabby60

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 08:21 pm »
I am taking AP Biology right now and I want to major in Biology...what if I take the AP exam and don't get a good score on it? Would it affect my application process a whole lot? Would I have to chose a new major?

Thanks in advance  :)

Admissions_Mark

  • Full Member
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 09:51 pm »
Admission to Hopkins is not solely based on the score of one single AP Exam - so to answer your question simply - nope!  We take AP scores into account along with many other things so this shouldn't deter you from studying for the exam and ultimately taking it.  

Good luck!  :D

~Mark
Mark E. Butt
Sr. Assistant Director of Undergraduate Admissions
Johns Hopkins University

tomilola8803

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 04:29 pm »
Hi Admissions Daniel and Admissions Mark, I schooled in England and therefore did A levels. I read about being able to get credits for A levels and I was just wondering how that works. I am planning to be a pre-med and I did maths, biology, chemistry and latin for A levels and got 4 As. I was just wondering how everything works with credits as far as I'm concerned.

Admissions_Mark

  • Full Member
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2007, 12:43 pm »
Congrats on great A levels.  Students who obtain grades of A or B on a University of London, University of Cambridge, or Oxford G.C.E. Advanced Level exam are eligible for credit commensurate with the comparable course at Hopkins. International curriculum students interested in receiving credit for other advanced-level studies may have their work evaluated by the appropriate academic departments.  As for now, simply make sure you have an official copy of your A level results here and your advisor will help you get them matched up with your curricular choices for the fall.  :o)

Mark
Mark E. Butt
Sr. Assistant Director of Undergraduate Admissions
Johns Hopkins University

ohlala7

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2007, 10:41 pm »
so its totally fine if i decide not to take the AP english lit, psych, and gov test at this point? i see that i dont get any credit for them. is there ANY reason to still take these tests?

Admissions_Daniel

  • Administrator
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2007, 08:15 am »
From the point-of-view of JHU Admissions, if you can't get credit for an AP exam and you are enrolling at Hopkins, it is not necessary to take the exam. Your specific school may have a different point-of-view, but not taking AP exams will not impact your admission in any way.

Julia

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2007, 09:57 pm »
I took/am taking a lot of AP exams that JHU doesn't actually offer credit for.  Is there any benefit at all to taking the exams if I won't get any credit for them?  I might just skip the AP English exam altogether, because I've heard you don't give credit for it.

I took AP American history last year, and I felt good about the AP exam, and I expect to get a 4 or 5 on it.  Is there any benefit at all to me having taken the actual exam (the exam, not the class), or did I just waste 4 hours of my life and $70?

Also, if I go to JHU, should I take the AP English exam? I'm taking AP English either way, but will taking the exam matter at all?

All of this is assuming that I actually go to JHU... or get in.  :blink:

I'm still largely undecided on my major/career.  I've always been interested in biology and sciences, but I also like English a lot.  Any advice in that area?  I'm not really interested in being a doctor, but doing biology oriented research seems good.

Admissions_Mark

  • Full Member
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2007, 10:27 am »
Julia,

Thanks for your post.  AP Exams, whether we offer credit for the results or not, can be useful.  If anything they teach great test-taking skills, academic preparation for a standardized national exam (of which you'll have many more) and explore content areas which your high school course may not have.

Of course you don't have to take any exam - I personally encourage it simply because I think it gets you into the idea that this is a fundamental skill being trained for a college setting.  Further, if you're going to take the class, the exam is simply an exam at the end - it's almost a waste not to, right?  You've done the work already.  

Most importantly, different schools award credit for different exams so I would not encourage making a decision prior to receiving a decision from any institution.  I hope this helps!

Mark
Mark E. Butt
Sr. Assistant Director of Undergraduate Admissions
Johns Hopkins University

umair

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2007, 04:14 pm »
i'll be giving my A level exam this May and i want to enroll in the 2008 class. so how are u guys gonna select me without knowing my results. Will u give me admission on the basis of my expected results?

Admissions_Mark

  • Full Member
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2007, 02:02 pm »
When considering international applications who are in a British system curriculum, we do look at predicted results in addition to the 3.5 years of prior coursework they have completed.  However, admission is not solely based on exam results or predicted exam results - we look at all parts of the application.  Further, all offers are conditional until the receipt of final grades and transcripts in July.
Mark E. Butt
Sr. Assistant Director of Undergraduate Admissions
Johns Hopkins University

JHU_Stefanie

  • Hopkins Student
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 12:10 pm »
I took around 10 or 11 AP courses throughout my high school career.  Hopkins only accepted around half.  I knew most universities wouldn't accept many of the humanities exams.  However, I opted to take the exams to see how I did anyway.  It is a lot of money, but

1. it shows what you actually learned.
2. my scores were posted on my transcript which Hopkins saw.
3. i like AP exams.

:)

Admissions_Daniel

  • Administrator
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2007, 06:10 am »
Applicants may self-report AP scores with their application. We only require an official AP score report if you are admitted, choose to enroll, and would like to receive credits for your AP exams.

MsTalleyrand

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2008, 06:36 pm »
Hi,
Visited Hopkins yesterday, and found it delightful, but have a few questions about AP credits.  
In an area like Latin, where you do not grant credit for the AP course/exam, do you offer a departmental placement test for a new student who wishes to study Latin and has taken four years in High School or would that student have to start from scratch?
I have a similar question about history, but it seems more obvious that you might want students to start University level history anew regardless of what they have studied before, whereas in a language, there must be something of value that might stay with the student as s/he progresses.

Admissions_Daniel

  • Administrator
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2008, 08:44 pm »
Glad that you enjoyed your visit to Hopkins, and that you have found our message boards. Hopefully we can be helpful.

As far as your question as it relates to languages programs, Hopkins does offer credit for certain AP language exams (French, German, and Spanish). You can see the full list here:

http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/apib.html

We do not offer course credit for AP Latin exams. In the cases where credit is not offered for a language there are placement exams that enrolling students may take to determine what level course they should take. Students who place in higher levels do not receive credit for the lower level courses they place out of, but the placement exams do help students find the right courses for themselves. Here is the web site that talks more about language placement exams (as well as for Math and Music):
http://www.jhu.edu/advising/placement.html

As far as courses like History and English where we do not offer AP credit, students are not able to take placement exams. The reason for this is two-fold ... Hopkins does not offer overview courses in History nor English that reflect the AP curriculum, therefore we can offer course credit for courses that don't exist at Hopkins. The second reason is that the level of introductory courses in our Humanities tend to be a step above AP curriculums.

Hope all that information helps.

There is also a thread in the Academics section that can be of more assistance:

(1) Questions about AP credits: http://www.hopkins-interactive.com/forums/academics-the-insider-perspective/questions-about-ap-ib-credits/


JHU_Lauren

  • Hopkins Alumni
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2008, 12:00 am »
I'm actually really glad you asked this question.  I took Latin for four years in high school and am planning to start up with it again next semester, and I was wondering about how to know which class to register for.  Thanks for using the message boards .. I learned something from your question, too!  :)

Also, you got GREAT weather yesterday to see our campus.  I'm glad you had a good time!
lauren *
HOPKINS, CLASS OF 2011
http://blogs.hopkins-interactive.com/lauren

"Leave something good in every day."

myang322

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2008, 10:21 pm »
I took many AP classes throughout HS, so I was wondering when I should send my scores in order to get credit at JHU.  Do I have to do anything other than send scores through Collegeboard?

Thanks in advance!

JHU_Tabitha

  • Hopkins Student
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2008, 12:10 pm »
In order to get credit for the classes there really is no deadline.
I still haven't sent mine in yet, and my academic advisor says that there's no rush.

I'm not completely sure about whether you have to send them through anything else though, so hopefully someone else will know.
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Admissions_Daniel

  • Administrator
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2008, 07:22 pm »
Quote from: "myang322"
I took many AP classes throughout HS, so I was wondering when I should send my scores in order to get credit at JHU.  Do I have to do anything other than send scores through Collegeboard?

Thanks in advance!
It is recommended that you have your AP scores sent in the summer, around the time you receive your course registration materials from the Academic Advising Office. It will be part of your registration checklist.

You will just have to have them sent from the College Board. They will arrive in the Admissions Office and we will forward them to the correct Academic Advising Office. No need to send them in advance ... wait until all your exams are complete.

changcalc

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2008, 06:33 pm »
Thanks for the information!  But I also have another question, how much do the admissions value AP's? I have three in sophomore and junior year added together, and three to four more coming in my senior year. Since I won't take the tests in my senior year until I get into a university, does that matter?

Admissions_Daniel

  • Administrator
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2008, 10:20 pm »
Quote from: "changcalc"
Thanks for the information!  But I also have another question, how much do the admissions value AP's? I have three in sophomore and junior year added together, and three to four more coming in my senior year. Since I won't take the tests in my senior year until I get into a university, does that matter?
One's strength of curriculum is a very important part of the academic part of our application review. We expect our applicants to challenge themselves with the most difficult curriculum available at one's high school (typically AP or IB courses). There is no way to predict what the correct number of AP courses one must take, because each application is reviewed individually based on each individual applicant's circumstances.

Additionally, AP exam scores are reviewed, but what is much more important is that a student takes an AP course and their final grade in that course.

wardah

  • Newbie
Re: Questions about AP/IB and Placement exams
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2008, 06:43 am »
Hi...i was wondering how important AP courses are in the evaluation process for the undergrad program. i took a look at the list of AP classes that are granted credit, and history and english classes aren't among them. is it still worthwhile to take those courses in high school, even if they don't earn college credit or is it better to go with the normal level courses? thanks  :)